Comments on: There Is No Such Thing As Casual Or Hardcore

By: Tiempo vs Habilidad, reductio ad absurdum

Tiempo vs Habilidad, reductio ad absurdum — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:58:51 +0000

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By: Jeremy S.

Jeremy S. — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:09:41 +0000

I agree with what you say about difficulty. I think the hardest aspect is learning to operate smoothly in a group, That bleeds into real life as well.

I had a similar thought months ago while playing WoW. My friends were debating over toughness of some quest, and all the sudden it dawned on me.
“Guys! you’d have trouble trying NOT to level in this game. What you’re really arguing over is personal goals as to how fast you can level and how fast you can achieve a high level uber-geared character. Sheesh!”

By: itscrackerjack

itscrackerjack — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:04:48 +0000

Ps i cant believe i posted here. Im coming up to kill you Mantooth lol

By: itscrackerjack

itscrackerjack — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:04:06 +0000

“but I believe you have all your spells, potions, combos etc. bound to your keys and you know your shortcuts very well. Me, I’ve always used mouse to click on these little icons”.

Wrong you cannot do this. You have to click each icon with your mouse.
EQ2 hardcore= someone that raids at least 5 nights a week for normally 4 hours a night or pvp’s for that same amount of time.

Casual= someone that logs on for maybe a few hours each week which in experience i’m quite sure Gordon falls deeply into this bracket.

By: Syncaine

Syncaine — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:01:42 +0000

Just to start, no amount of time will make you a good PvP’er in DarkFall, hence why those who play like it, and why PvP in WoW is a joke from a player skill perspective.

As for the rest, a ‘better’ player will accomplish something faster than others. Since time is usually not infinate (it is in WoW now, since content is so slow to release and the bar is so low), player skill comes into play. If my raiding guild clears AQ40 in a month, and it takes yours three, we will have more time on Nax40, and be further ahead. Had Blizzard continued to add raids, the gap would increase.

Finally, if player skill is not a factor and only time matters, why do so many players try and fail to join top guilds, be it in PvP or PvE? Why do those guilds have waiting lists of players, while average guilds struggle to fill raid spots with whoever?

By: Bart

Bart — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:38:07 +0000

Totally disagree. There is hardcore and casual and you know Gordon you are hardcore player. Come on, you play every day, you say. Today I’ve played (my personal favorite - Call of Duty) first time in last couple of weeks for around 30 minutes - this is casual. I don’t have that much of experience in MMORPGs, but I believe you have all your spells, potions, combos etc. bound to your keys and you know your shortcuts very well. Me, I’ve always used mouse to click on these little icons. Again you are hardcore, I’m casual. The same is with any type of game. Because you are so deep in this particular gaming world you no longer see the difference between casual and hardcore.
I’m just thinking does reading blogs like this one, or talking with people about games I’ve never been playing and taking pleasure from that, does that make me at least hardcore in a tiny little bit?

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:32:00 +0000

I disagree with your “difficulty” section rather vehemently. A full response is here:

http://teethandclaws.blogspot.com/2009/06/is-raiding-only-matter-of-time.html

By: Beej

Beej — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:36:41 +0000

I agree. The number one reason that I stopped even playing WoW was because of time investment. I did not have time to raid with my friends, so when I played, I was getting left behind. I could barely make Naxx raids, and when Ulduar progression started, I simply could not work the nights into my schedule.

If I wanted to hit a 5-man or Archavon, I was spending hours in the channel looking for a PuG because, even though I was a healer, I didn’t have the raid epics to make the run too easy. I could spend the hour in the instance, but the hour before that made getting to the instance itself impossible.

I wanted to get back into PvP, and again, I could not justify the time investment for the grind in regard to Honor to even be on a level playing field, much less competitive.

So I quit, and I hope that maybe a new game like The Old Republic will find a balance between time investment and progression that does not alienate players.