Comments on: Twinking Is Just Another Form Of Cheating

By: Gamers Rights Law » Banning in Games

Gamers Rights Law » Banning in Games — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:28:52 +0000

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By: sash

sash — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:50:47 +0000

How can i use twinking in mob wars an online game on facebook? I would like to get Money,weapons and other cool stuff that is not available to me at my level.

By: Professor Beej

Professor Beej — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:34:13 +0000

Which is why Blizzard implemented the non-XP only battlegrounds. That way actual PvP twinks only fight other twinks.

The main problem with that is when said twinks get crazy and start ganking people in the world. And that’s where the fuzzy line comes in for me.

By: Jadyn

Jadyn — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:40:21 +0000

That’s the issue with any form of progression in any MMO where there’s pvp. You could use similar reasoning to point out that a lvl 50 vs a lvl 40 player is also unfair. And it is; it’s just not complained about as much, because there are more ways that high levels are kept away from lower level players, to avoid that problem.

By: Whats my main again?

Whats my main again? — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:26:15 +0000

I think that is a major issue when it comes to PvP in WoW. The survivability between someone in full gladiator gear vs someone in blues and greens who just hit 80 or heck even someone in tier 9 is huge. In PvE you can be undergeared, but in general you are taking on challenges that your gear can handle. If you just hit 80 you won’t be running ToC heroic hardmodes but your gear won’t prevent you from runnin heroics.

In PvP though you can be a fresh 80 in with veteran players. There is no appropriate place for a fresh 80 who wants to pvp to face equal challenge. Instead that player may end up (and likely will) against players in vastly superior and tailored gear.

By: Gordon

Gordon — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:47:24 +0000

Perhaps cheating is too strong of a word but it does highlight the issues with item progression in MMOs. If items make us either strong or weak, it can take away too much of the “skill” and create an unfair fight.

By: Whats my main again?

Whats my main again? — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:09:16 +0000

Its an interesting thought… but where do you draw the line? I have a twink toon in pvp… my level 76 druid. He was my main in BC with full season 4 gear and every slot except for my 57 stam trinket has resilience. Using a flask I’m at 499 resilience which combined with 15k hps unbuffed and being a resto druid means I’m damn near unkillable. Even going up against other 79 twinks i’m significantly stronger in power. Is he a twink? Well yeah he has max level professions and has the gold required for gems and enchants.

Is it cheating?

While it may feel like I’m cheating sometimes the answer has to be no. All of the gear was achieved during my lvl 70 grind during the last expansion and only gems and enchants have been updated and those were mostly while leveling up those professions on other toons.

By: Gnomeaggedon

Gnomeaggedon — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:22:12 +0000

Cheating no…
Unfair advantage over others, well I think before the great twink freeze of 3.2 the answer leaned towards yes… but, ultimately the opportunity was there for all.

Did it disrupt the economy.. no. No more than someone taking hold of the market.

You didn’t need the twink items to play WoW. You didn’t even need them for the BGs… sure they were an advantage, but they weren’t necessary.

The reality was nearly all of the twink items could be gained by the individual themselves, they would have to be careful and occasionally grab some help from other characters (whether through instance running or cash injections).

that level 19 item that sells for 100g… necessary to the average player… no - but they could fun their 1st 40 levels if it dropped… then they just needed to make decision, equip for 3 levels, or page for my mount?

By: Ferrel

Ferrel — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:01:32 +0000

In the simplest terms yes, being against the TOS is one of the major differences. One is literally against the rules. That isn’t why I think players are so against it however.

It truly comes down a issue of perceptions. A lot of players still see MMOs as self contained environment. They’ve earned the $10 in reality for sure but they haven’t earned the item in game. In one way, MMOs are viewed to be a somewhat equal playing field since we all pay the same a month. The outcome is the same but how it is viewed is very different.

By: To Twink, or Not To Twink… | MMORPG Games & MMO News - MMOCrunch

To Twink, or Not To Twink… | MMORPG Games & MMO News - MMOCrunch — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:54:16 +0000

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