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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Fashionable To Hate World Of Warcraft</title>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/09/28/its-fashionable-to-hate-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-11279</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too true, and I must admit I was in one of those more passionate moods when I wrote the comment :)  

But if I don't care about something its dead to me I guess, and I did/do genuinely feel cheesed off about the way that game changed (more so that friends keep trying to get me into it again!).

As a bit of a completionist I like the idea of leaving an MMO at the end of an expansion when the next one doesn't appeal, sort of happened with Guildwars I guess there I don't harbour any bad feelings for NCSoft as a company in the way they handled that game and it leaves me tempted to try out their newer offerings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too true, and I must admit I was in one of those more passionate moods when I wrote the comment <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' width='16' height='16' />  </p>
<p>But if I don&#8217;t care about something its dead to me I guess, and I did/do genuinely feel cheesed off about the way that game changed (more so that friends keep trying to get me into it again!).</p>
<p>As a bit of a completionist I like the idea of leaving an MMO at the end of an expansion when the next one doesn&#8217;t appeal, sort of happened with Guildwars I guess there I don&#8217;t harbour any bad feelings for NCSoft as a company in the way they handled that game and it leaves me tempted to try out their newer offerings.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/09/28/its-fashionable-to-hate-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-10998</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very elegant and interesting response :) I can understand that people get upset when the game they know and love changes but I try to take it in my stride and consider these things part of the natural progression. If a MMORPG turns into something I don't like, I go find one that's better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very elegant and interesting response <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' width='16' height='16' /> I can understand that people get upset when the game they know and love changes but I try to take it in my stride and consider these things part of the natural progression. If a MMORPG turns into something I don&#8217;t like, I go find one that&#8217;s better.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/09/28/its-fashionable-to-hate-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-10968</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dislike WoW, could even call it hate WoW, but for none of the reasons above, for example, someone talked about say EQ1 and how they moved on from it and had only fond memories.  

Well imagine if SOE had taken EQ1, dumbed it down in ways unimaginable so that it suits now a totally different audience, changed PVP from a fun casual activity to something you have to grind away at to be able to compete because now you need special pvp only gear so Blizzard could chase their E$port dollars.

Then they made tanking so easy you could do it with one button because the threat was ridiculously high, released a yawn worthy expansion where you could even solo the 5 man quests while you were levelling up.  Make all 12 dungeons in the game snooze fests from start to finish that we could complete on heroic bypassing the normal modes (this contributed a lot to burnout).

Then for the final rip re-released a raid from earlier in EQ1, same graphics, same mobs, just a higher level as the only major raid to run for the first 6 months of that expansion, Uldar was good, but it came too late in the day to save my enthusiasm here.

The final nail in the coffin would be then to reset the gear levels 1/2 way through that expansion thus making the best route to gear up to endlessly spam the same easy dungeons, even the thought of doing this convinced me it was time to call it day.

Now would you have fond memories?

Sure I was a little burnt out in WoW, sure I had some good times in it (ironically I met up in real life with some of the guild members for a day out just a few days before), but I always wanted to walk away from it when I've had my fill. 

And its for the social reasons therefore that I dislike Blizzard, WoW isn't a computer game, its an MMO which means its got a social component, normal games change, a console sequel can be bad, but so what.   

But with an MMO there are networks of friends, playing fast and loose with the whole game just because they stop making what I realised was a watered down copy of EQ1, but instead now want to cater to the level of facebook games playing crowd is a great way to get hated as a company.

NGE anyone?  Its happened before, for this reason I think Blizzard have been slow with their changes, but they've still broken up a good thing, that's my reason to hate them.

What's yours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dislike WoW, could even call it hate WoW, but for none of the reasons above, for example, someone talked about say EQ1 and how they moved on from it and had only fond memories.  </p>
<p>Well imagine if SOE had taken EQ1, dumbed it down in ways unimaginable so that it suits now a totally different audience, changed PVP from a fun casual activity to something you have to grind away at to be able to compete because now you need special pvp only gear so Blizzard could chase their E$port dollars.</p>
<p>Then they made tanking so easy you could do it with one button because the threat was ridiculously high, released a yawn worthy expansion where you could even solo the 5 man quests while you were levelling up.  Make all 12 dungeons in the game snooze fests from start to finish that we could complete on heroic bypassing the normal modes (this contributed a lot to burnout).</p>
<p>Then for the final rip re-released a raid from earlier in EQ1, same graphics, same mobs, just a higher level as the only major raid to run for the first 6 months of that expansion, Uldar was good, but it came too late in the day to save my enthusiasm here.</p>
<p>The final nail in the coffin would be then to reset the gear levels 1/2 way through that expansion thus making the best route to gear up to endlessly spam the same easy dungeons, even the thought of doing this convinced me it was time to call it day.</p>
<p>Now would you have fond memories?</p>
<p>Sure I was a little burnt out in WoW, sure I had some good times in it (ironically I met up in real life with some of the guild members for a day out just a few days before), but I always wanted to walk away from it when I&#8217;ve had my fill. </p>
<p>And its for the social reasons therefore that I dislike Blizzard, WoW isn&#8217;t a computer game, its an MMO which means its got a social component, normal games change, a console sequel can be bad, but so what.   </p>
<p>But with an MMO there are networks of friends, playing fast and loose with the whole game just because they stop making what I realised was a watered down copy of EQ1, but instead now want to cater to the level of facebook games playing crowd is a great way to get hated as a company.</p>
<p>NGE anyone?  Its happened before, for this reason I think Blizzard have been slow with their changes, but they&#8217;ve still broken up a good thing, that&#8217;s my reason to hate them.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s yours?</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/09/28/its-fashionable-to-hate-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-10224</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think as much as people shouldn't hate WoW just for the sake of it, I can understand why it's got a bad rep. A lot of WoW players aren't accustomed to other MMORPGs and then I can see how they complain about another game lacking a feature or being too "hard" or not being solo-friendly. That kind of moan just gives WoW a bad name though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think as much as people shouldn&#8217;t hate WoW just for the sake of it, I can understand why it&#8217;s got a bad rep. A lot of WoW players aren&#8217;t accustomed to other MMORPGs and then I can see how they complain about another game lacking a feature or being too &#8220;hard&#8221; or not being solo-friendly. That kind of moan just gives WoW a bad name though.</p>
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		<title>By: Raid Warning Episode #18 : Raid Warning</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/09/28/its-fashionable-to-hate-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-10223</link>
		<dc:creator>Raid Warning Episode #18 : Raid Warning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stabs</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/09/28/its-fashionable-to-hate-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-10214</link>
		<dc:creator>Stabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Occasionally it's just the easiest put-down.

If I see someone whining about something stupid "go back to WoW" will put them down far more effectively than anything intelligent I say.

I do generally resist the temptation to say it though but I can certainly see why people coming into DDO and whining about it not being solo-friendly get this. It's obviously a group-centric game and is one of the last bastions of group-centric gameplay that isn't a pvp blob game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occasionally it&#8217;s just the easiest put-down.</p>
<p>If I see someone whining about something stupid &#8220;go back to WoW&#8221; will put them down far more effectively than anything intelligent I say.</p>
<p>I do generally resist the temptation to say it though but I can certainly see why people coming into DDO and whining about it not being solo-friendly get this. It&#8217;s obviously a group-centric game and is one of the last bastions of group-centric gameplay that isn&#8217;t a pvp blob game.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/09/28/its-fashionable-to-hate-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-10204</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on. It's just the in-thing to do at the moment and will probably remain that way until something else eventually knocks it off it's perch. I guess it's that old saying "it's tough at the top".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on. It&#8217;s just the in-thing to do at the moment and will probably remain that way until something else eventually knocks it off it&#8217;s perch. I guess it&#8217;s that old saying &#8220;it&#8217;s tough at the top&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/09/28/its-fashionable-to-hate-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-10203</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe, love the comparison :) Of course, you gotta wonder why someone would break up with a super hot girlfriend in the first place? Definite resentment :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, love the comparison <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' width='16' height='16' /> Of course, you gotta wonder why someone would break up with a super hot girlfriend in the first place? Definite resentment <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' width='16' height='16' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/09/28/its-fashionable-to-hate-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-10202</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironic isn't it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironic isn&#8217;t it <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' width='16' height='16' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/09/28/its-fashionable-to-hate-world-of-warcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-10201</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see how it's hard moving to other MMORPGs after WoW - it's just so easy to play :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how it&#8217;s hard moving to other MMORPGs after WoW - it&#8217;s just so easy to play <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' width='16' height='16' /> </p>
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