Comments on: Torchlight Thoughts http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/01/torchlight-thoughts/ A blog about MMORPGs like World of Warcraft (WoW) and Everquest 2 (EQ2) Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:31:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: “Novelty vs. Nostalgia ” or “Innovation vs. Stagnation” « Are We New At This? http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/01/torchlight-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-11786 “Novelty vs. Nostalgia ” or “Innovation vs. Stagnation” « Are We New At This? Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:04:13 +0000 http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/?p=2061#comment-11786 [...] classes. And it ends too quickly. But it is an incredible experience, offers smooth gameplay and feeds on the far-reaching and widespread Diablo nostalgia that the gaming media has made no effort to [...] [...] classes. And it ends too quickly. But it is an incredible experience, offers smooth gameplay and feeds on the far-reaching and widespread Diablo nostalgia that the gaming media has made no effort to [...]

]]> By: Diablo? Non-Diablo? I’m Just The Guy With The Torchlight http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/01/torchlight-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-11741 Diablo? Non-Diablo? I’m Just The Guy With The Torchlight Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:00:23 +0000 http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/?p=2061#comment-11741 [...] the title from Runic Games that seems to have the circle of bloggers I seem to frequent giddy with excitement over the neato features and Diablo-esque memories it has [...] [...] the title from Runic Games that seems to have the circle of bloggers I seem to frequent giddy with excitement over the neato features and Diablo-esque memories it has [...]

]]> By: Gordon http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/01/torchlight-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-11671 Gordon Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:56:31 +0000 http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/?p=2061#comment-11671 You might be right. Thing is, Diablo 3 will sell by the bucket load just because it's a Blizzard game... but whether it will be good as people expect or remember, that's another story. Blizzard make good games but I'm not sure how long they can re-use the same '90s gameplay for. You might be right. Thing is, Diablo 3 will sell by the bucket load just because it’s a Blizzard game… but whether it will be good as people expect or remember, that’s another story. Blizzard make good games but I’m not sure how long they can re-use the same ’90s gameplay for.

]]> By: Gordon http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/01/torchlight-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-11670 Gordon Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:55:31 +0000 http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/?p=2061#comment-11670 I think people knew what to expect from Torchlight and it was not touted as being something it wasn't. If they'd charged $40 for it, well, then people might have complained :) I think people knew what to expect from Torchlight and it was not touted as being something it wasn’t. If they’d charged $40 for it, well, then people might have complained :)

]]> By: Gordon http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/01/torchlight-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-11668 Gordon Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:53:11 +0000 http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/?p=2061#comment-11668 Yeah, I think there's probably lots of nostaliga there in my thoughts about Diablo :) I wouldn't compare mechanics between the games, I think I just preferred the Diablo style and feel more than Torchlight which is a very personal and subjective thing. And yeah the loading times are weird... it seems to take ages to start up and load on my PC! Very odd. Maybe it's just me... Yeah, I think there’s probably lots of nostaliga there in my thoughts about Diablo :) I wouldn’t compare mechanics between the games, I think I just preferred the Diablo style and feel more than Torchlight which is a very personal and subjective thing.

And yeah the loading times are weird… it seems to take ages to start up and load on my PC! Very odd. Maybe it’s just me…

]]> By: Bronte http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/01/torchlight-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-11646 Bronte Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:29:07 +0000 http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/?p=2061#comment-11646 It's strange how any other game would be criticized for the 'lack of classes' or the 'lack of flashy graphics' or the 'absence of significant voice-acting', etc. But for this game, all of it just pales in comparison to the gameplay, the intuitive controls, and the sheer amount of fun you can have with the game. I am shelving it because of Borderlands and Dragon Age: Origins for now, but I will be coming back to finish it in a month or two. It’s strange how any other game would be criticized for the ‘lack of classes’ or the ‘lack of flashy graphics’ or the ‘absence of significant voice-acting’, etc. But for this game, all of it just pales in comparison to the gameplay, the intuitive controls, and the sheer amount of fun you can have with the game.

I am shelving it because of Borderlands and Dragon Age: Origins for now, but I will be coming back to finish it in a month or two.

]]> By: Victor Stillwater http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/01/torchlight-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-11622 Victor Stillwater Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:08:08 +0000 http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/?p=2061#comment-11622 It was my first online purchase ever, and I'm not regretting the game I bought. :) It was my first online purchase ever, and I’m not regretting the game I bought. :)

]]> By: Longasc http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/01/torchlight-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-11618 Longasc Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:42:24 +0000 http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/?p=2061#comment-11618 While I like Torchlight, I am already done with it. It has not the story/drive that made me play through Diablo I, which was IMO better than Diablo 2 for me as solo player, which was a lot more popular among the multiplayer crowd. I think Blizzard is going for the small group online thing right from the start plus offering a single player campaign, maybe allowing companions to help you out from the net, for instance. But I seriously doubt that Diablo gameplay, even if polished, has a lot of staying power in 2009/10. Blizzard might prove me wrong again, but the eternal item hunt that was Diablo II online quickly got old for me. Maybe Blizzard is at this very moment figuring out the specials and magic little thingies that make the new Diablo interesting for the 2009/10 audience... who knows. While I like Torchlight, I am already done with it. It has not the story/drive that made me play through Diablo I, which was IMO better than Diablo 2 for me as solo player, which was a lot more popular among the multiplayer crowd.

I think Blizzard is going for the small group online thing right from the start plus offering a single player campaign, maybe allowing companions to help you out from the net, for instance.

But I seriously doubt that Diablo gameplay, even if polished, has a lot of staying power in 2009/10. Blizzard might prove me wrong again, but the eternal item hunt that was Diablo II online quickly got old for me.

Maybe Blizzard is at this very moment figuring out the specials and magic little thingies that make the new Diablo interesting for the 2009/10 audience… who knows.

]]> By: Andrew http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/01/torchlight-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-11607 Andrew Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:29:19 +0000 http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/?p=2061#comment-11607 Torchlight was made in 11 months (by many of the same people that made Diablo 1 & 2) and sells for $20. Diablo 1 & 2 were big budget games with AAA price tags. Let's put that out there first. =) Now, even still I believe that saying that the Diablo games are better is an exercise in rose coloured glasses. Torchlight is a heck of a lot more polished that Diablo 1 for certain, and perhaps even the second installment. I challenge you to actually back up your assertions to the opposite by demonstrating systems in the Diablo games that beat our equivalent systems in Torchlight. The plot/art direction angles are personal taste, and its fine that you like one over the other.... but aside from "long loading times" (huh? really?) and "lack of movies" you've yet to convince me of the meat of your argument. Torchlight was made in 11 months (by many of the same people that made Diablo 1 & 2) and sells for $20. Diablo 1 & 2 were big budget games with AAA price tags. Let’s put that out there first. =)

Now, even still I believe that saying that the Diablo games are better is an exercise in rose coloured glasses. Torchlight is a heck of a lot more polished that Diablo 1 for certain, and perhaps even the second installment. I challenge you to actually back up your assertions to the opposite by demonstrating systems in the Diablo games that beat our equivalent systems in Torchlight.

The plot/art direction angles are personal taste, and its fine that you like one over the other…. but aside from “long loading times” (huh? really?) and “lack of movies” you’ve yet to convince me of the meat of your argument.

]]> By: xXJayeDuBXx http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/01/torchlight-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-11601 xXJayeDuBXx Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:39:41 +0000 http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/?p=2061#comment-11601 I agree, it's a decent game and it's cheap and everyone should buy it! I agree, it’s a decent game and it’s cheap and everyone should buy it!

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