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	<description>A blog about MMORPGs like World of Warcraft (WoW) and Everquest 2 (EQ2)</description>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/03/leaving-behind-your-buddies/comment-page-1/#comment-11895</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how does xfire work? Is the chat client overlayed inside the game or is it a voice thing like Ventrillo? Problem is that a lot of my buddies don&#039;t like voice chat so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how does xfire work? Is the chat client overlayed inside the game or is it a voice thing like Ventrillo? Problem is that a lot of my buddies don&#8217;t like voice chat so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Yetian</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/03/leaving-behind-your-buddies/comment-page-1/#comment-11860</link>
		<dc:creator>Yetian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always feel the same way. 

I have played eq2 since release and most of our guild has too. We have a lotr branch for those that went to that game and we have a few trying the free version of d&amp;d online. 

Our guildies that left eq2 still use our site and still come to meets. For us the guild is more important than the game. If a few try a new game we often make a branch in that mmo. Sometimes branches las sometimes not but the guild always does. 

I often end up trying a game with guild mates who were in a game with me before. 

I expect to see many again at next years meet. I guess we have been lucky but we have also worked to make it work. Some of the guild have gamed together since eq. 

As for cross game chat Xfire works well as you can create a chat channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always feel the same way. </p>
<p>I have played eq2 since release and most of our guild has too. We have a lotr branch for those that went to that game and we have a few trying the free version of d&amp;d online. </p>
<p>Our guildies that left eq2 still use our site and still come to meets. For us the guild is more important than the game. If a few try a new game we often make a branch in that mmo. Sometimes branches las sometimes not but the guild always does. </p>
<p>I often end up trying a game with guild mates who were in a game with me before. </p>
<p>I expect to see many again at next years meet. I guess we have been lucky but we have also worked to make it work. Some of the guild have gamed together since eq. </p>
<p>As for cross game chat Xfire works well as you can create a chat channel.</p>
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		<title>By: Stabs</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/03/leaving-behind-your-buddies/comment-page-1/#comment-11775</link>
		<dc:creator>Stabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha - the banner ad is for Hello Kitty Online. Now that would be a true test of friendship!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha &#8211; the banner ad is for Hello Kitty Online. Now that would be a true test of friendship!</p>
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		<title>By: Good old Hammerfaust</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/03/leaving-behind-your-buddies/comment-page-1/#comment-11770</link>
		<dc:creator>Good old Hammerfaust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Champions Online!!!! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Champions Online!!!! <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile-big.png' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Longasc</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/03/leaving-behind-your-buddies/comment-page-1/#comment-11768</link>
		<dc:creator>Longasc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I met many interesting people playing various games, and even if most of them don&#039;t play on the same server or even the same game anymore, we are still in contact.

This is only true for a minority of contacts though, but they are the really valuable ones.

It is often a bit shit if your friends babble about WoW raids when you aren&#039;t playing it anymore, sure. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met many interesting people playing various games, and even if most of them don&#8217;t play on the same server or even the same game anymore, we are still in contact.</p>
<p>This is only true for a minority of contacts though, but they are the really valuable ones.</p>
<p>It is often a bit shit if your friends babble about WoW raids when you aren&#8217;t playing it anymore, sure. <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to encourage all of my EQ2 friends to try WoW with me now :) Maybe it will work hehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to encourage all of my EQ2 friends to try WoW with me now <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Maybe it will work hehe.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I know... it was sad when that happened with all of my friends from University. I wish we could just all live in the same commune together or something :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I know&#8230; it was sad when that happened with all of my friends from University. I wish we could just all live in the same commune together or something <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-raspberry.png' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, will check it out. I thought it just recorded your time in games?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, will check it out. I thought it just recorded your time in games?</p>
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		<title>By: Good old Hammerfaust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good old Hammerfaust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with you, Mr. Wise...
I am still sad that I lost in-game contact with most ppl I really (still) like from our good times in EQ2. 
And it is good to see some mates on facebook or stay in contact with them via their own (and great!!) blog! ;)

Mr. Sexy :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with you, Mr. Wise&#8230;<br />
I am still sad that I lost in-game contact with most ppl I really (still) like from our good times in EQ2.<br />
And it is good to see some mates on facebook or stay in contact with them via their own (and great!!) blog! <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mr. Sexy <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile-big.png' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think often the friendships are very much rooted in a shared interest. What I mean is they don&#039;t always survive being uprooted.

We had a very tight SWG guild where we all knew each other well and liked each other. We moved to EQ2 in 2004 and it didn&#039;t survive. We were all different levels and needed different quests. High fliers got fed up with the lowbies and altoholics, lowbies couldn&#039;t understand why suddenly a group that had been so tight and done everything together in SWG was all separated (because the high fliers wouldn&#039;t come back to do content we could access).

I could go into a separate rant on how strict level systems destroy friendships. But there&#039;s another factor at work too: online gamers need to be all pointed in the same direction.

Eve is potentially a good game for this but I had a hard time moving to it with some real life friends. One guy found it flat out too complex. Another rushed off to join the first corp spamming Jita local and ended up in Griefers Anonymous (sic). I played with them a couple of times they were horrible self-centred American teenage boys. I kinda felt he should have fitted in with what I was doing rather than rush off and start something crap. We&#039;ve always had a herding cats problem in my RL friends playing group - all leaders, no followers, most of us not very good communicators either.

It can be done successfully but I think it&#039;s simpler to play what you personally want and let your friends know you&#039;re there.

Another thing which I&#039;ve heard works well and want to try is the static group. Like an old school Dungeons and Dragons group you meet one night a week and play for a few hours together. DDO online is very suited to this as it&#039;s free so you&#039;re not wasting anything by playing a MMO 3 hours a week then playing other games the rest of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think often the friendships are very much rooted in a shared interest. What I mean is they don&#8217;t always survive being uprooted.</p>
<p>We had a very tight SWG guild where we all knew each other well and liked each other. We moved to EQ2 in 2004 and it didn&#8217;t survive. We were all different levels and needed different quests. High fliers got fed up with the lowbies and altoholics, lowbies couldn&#8217;t understand why suddenly a group that had been so tight and done everything together in SWG was all separated (because the high fliers wouldn&#8217;t come back to do content we could access).</p>
<p>I could go into a separate rant on how strict level systems destroy friendships. But there&#8217;s another factor at work too: online gamers need to be all pointed in the same direction.</p>
<p>Eve is potentially a good game for this but I had a hard time moving to it with some real life friends. One guy found it flat out too complex. Another rushed off to join the first corp spamming Jita local and ended up in Griefers Anonymous (sic). I played with them a couple of times they were horrible self-centred American teenage boys. I kinda felt he should have fitted in with what I was doing rather than rush off and start something crap. We&#8217;ve always had a herding cats problem in my RL friends playing group &#8211; all leaders, no followers, most of us not very good communicators either.</p>
<p>It can be done successfully but I think it&#8217;s simpler to play what you personally want and let your friends know you&#8217;re there.</p>
<p>Another thing which I&#8217;ve heard works well and want to try is the static group. Like an old school Dungeons and Dragons group you meet one night a week and play for a few hours together. DDO online is very suited to this as it&#8217;s free so you&#8217;re not wasting anything by playing a MMO 3 hours a week then playing other games the rest of the time.</p>
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