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	<title>Comments on: Buying Gold Is Like Sex In The Victorian Era</title>
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		<title>By: Wise One</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/16/buying-gold-is-like-sex-in-the-victorian-era/comment-page-1/#comment-14124</link>
		<dc:creator>Wise One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, it's quite ridiculous that companies make a big deal out of people selling game currency for real life money.  Especially when the retarded mmo companies themselves SHOULD provide an option to purchase game currency with real life currency.  Not to mention, that GAMES ARE SUPPOSE TO BE FUN, not overly tedious and extraordinarily time consuming.  Yes, everyone loves a challenge, but REAL LIFE should take up hours of your time NOT THE DIGITAL WORLD.  
P.S.
  I am using caps to stress how ridiculous this issue truly is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, it&#8217;s quite ridiculous that companies make a big deal out of people selling game currency for real life money.  Especially when the retarded mmo companies themselves SHOULD provide an option to purchase game currency with real life currency.  Not to mention, that GAMES ARE SUPPOSE TO BE FUN, not overly tedious and extraordinarily time consuming.  Yes, everyone loves a challenge, but REAL LIFE should take up hours of your time NOT THE DIGITAL WORLD.<br />
P.S.<br />
  I am using caps to stress how ridiculous this issue truly is.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/16/buying-gold-is-like-sex-in-the-victorian-era/comment-page-1/#comment-12819</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm totally against gold buying myself, gold buying I expect with the kiddies as a lot of them seem to be impatient and have a must have it now culture.  Sadly a lot of adults must also be putting the money in too, in both EQ2 and WoW the point of the game is to have a world you adventure in, yet cheating by spending real money to make virtual accomplishments possible happens.  

Personally I think these people are playing the wrong game myself, before long though we'll have some sort of ZT-online pure RMT type of game come to Europe/US where money=power openly and these people will lap it up.  In some ways that would be a good result at least if it cleared them off the real games, or maybe not seeing that there are more or less facebook games that do that now which still haven't stopped them RMT'ing their way through WoW judging by the gold adverts every 60s.  

For EQ2 though I'm not sure I've seen any signs of plat selling, I expect there is something that happens on the biggest US servers, but in the UK there are no adverts and apart from masters at the top level there is very little "must have" type of gear for sale that does not require status as well to buy.

If a game needs real money to do things to be "successful" then why not turn it off, load up a currency trading account and play with that, that's a game that at least can give you some real success.  I'm even against the fluff brought with real money from Station Cash or the Blizzard store, there its a bit of a fuzzy line, my big problem there is slightly different in that the more successful these things get the more inducement there is to warp the game to generate more money (ie less pets in the game you can find or earn).

Secondly though its funding all the scammers and Chinese gold farmers that I also object to, they're just plain annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m totally against gold buying myself, gold buying I expect with the kiddies as a lot of them seem to be impatient and have a must have it now culture.  Sadly a lot of adults must also be putting the money in too, in both EQ2 and WoW the point of the game is to have a world you adventure in, yet cheating by spending real money to make virtual accomplishments possible happens.  </p>
<p>Personally I think these people are playing the wrong game myself, before long though we&#8217;ll have some sort of ZT-online pure RMT type of game come to Europe/US where money=power openly and these people will lap it up.  In some ways that would be a good result at least if it cleared them off the real games, or maybe not seeing that there are more or less facebook games that do that now which still haven&#8217;t stopped them RMT&#8217;ing their way through WoW judging by the gold adverts every 60s.  </p>
<p>For EQ2 though I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve seen any signs of plat selling, I expect there is something that happens on the biggest US servers, but in the UK there are no adverts and apart from masters at the top level there is very little &#8220;must have&#8221; type of gear for sale that does not require status as well to buy.</p>
<p>If a game needs real money to do things to be &#8220;successful&#8221; then why not turn it off, load up a currency trading account and play with that, that&#8217;s a game that at least can give you some real success.  I&#8217;m even against the fluff brought with real money from Station Cash or the Blizzard store, there its a bit of a fuzzy line, my big problem there is slightly different in that the more successful these things get the more inducement there is to warp the game to generate more money (ie less pets in the game you can find or earn).</p>
<p>Secondly though its funding all the scammers and Chinese gold farmers that I also object to, they&#8217;re just plain annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/16/buying-gold-is-like-sex-in-the-victorian-era/comment-page-1/#comment-12187</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's maybe more like "I don't want to take the train to get to my destination because it takes so long, I'll cheat and use the plane instead".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s maybe more like &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to take the train to get to my destination because it takes so long, I&#8217;ll cheat and use the plane instead&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/16/buying-gold-is-like-sex-in-the-victorian-era/comment-page-1/#comment-12189</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I can understand gold buying, I cannot understand character purchasing. Well, I suppose I can a little. To me the fun has always been in leveling up the character but I guess I can see why people want to skip it... it's the same reason people get their friends to boost them through dungeons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I can understand gold buying, I cannot understand character purchasing. Well, I suppose I can a little. To me the fun has always been in leveling up the character but I guess I can see why people want to skip it&#8230; it&#8217;s the same reason people get their friends to boost them through dungeons.</p>
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		<title>By: Nollind Whachell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nollind Whachell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Longasc &amp; Gordon: Agree with both of you. Game design can help to make gold buying and character purchasing pretty much pointless. WoW is doing a great job of this with regards to gold buying.

With regards to character purchasing, I think the primary reason that people do this is simple. Either all of the fun is in the end-game or the person wants to play with their friends at a higher level. To circumvent this, ensure the gameplay (no matter what you want to focus on, i.e. PvP, etc) is enjoyable right from the very start of the game. And design ways for friends of varying levels to play along side one another (i.e. sidekick systems), thus removing any social barriers from the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Longasc &amp; Gordon: Agree with both of you. Game design can help to make gold buying and character purchasing pretty much pointless. WoW is doing a great job of this with regards to gold buying.</p>
<p>With regards to character purchasing, I think the primary reason that people do this is simple. Either all of the fun is in the end-game or the person wants to play with their friends at a higher level. To circumvent this, ensure the gameplay (no matter what you want to focus on, i.e. PvP, etc) is enjoyable right from the very start of the game. And design ways for friends of varying levels to play along side one another (i.e. sidekick systems), thus removing any social barriers from the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Meagen</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/16/buying-gold-is-like-sex-in-the-victorian-era/comment-page-1/#comment-12177</link>
		<dc:creator>Meagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don't get this whole "I want my account in an online game to show I did something but I can't be bothered doing it". It's kind of like if you're jealous of your friends having all those souvenirs from trips to various parts of the world, so you pay someone to go over to various tourist places and steal their souvenirs for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t get this whole &#8220;I want my account in an online game to show I did something but I can&#8217;t be bothered doing it&#8221;. It&#8217;s kind of like if you&#8217;re jealous of your friends having all those souvenirs from trips to various parts of the world, so you pay someone to go over to various tourist places and steal their souvenirs for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/16/buying-gold-is-like-sex-in-the-victorian-era/comment-page-1/#comment-12149</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, in such a context it is "cheating", I guess. Because it's unfair that someone has better gear and better items and thus an advantage in PvP. Of course, in low levels that was earned by buying gold but at high levels it's earned by raiding. Either way, it's an unfair advantage to whoever has the most money or time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, in such a context it is &#8220;cheating&#8221;, I guess. Because it&#8217;s unfair that someone has better gear and better items and thus an advantage in PvP. Of course, in low levels that was earned by buying gold but at high levels it&#8217;s earned by raiding. Either way, it&#8217;s an unfair advantage to whoever has the most money or time.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/16/buying-gold-is-like-sex-in-the-victorian-era/comment-page-1/#comment-12147</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$100 seems absolutely insane to me.

I guess, my understanding behind the reasoning of it all depends on the value of the gold. If 1,000 gold costs $10 and is enough to buy, say, an epic mount which would otherwise take 10 hours to grind, then technically speaking it's better "value for money" to buy the gold. That ways it's perhaps only 0.5 - 2 hours work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$100 seems absolutely insane to me.</p>
<p>I guess, my understanding behind the reasoning of it all depends on the value of the gold. If 1,000 gold costs $10 and is enough to buy, say, an epic mount which would otherwise take 10 hours to grind, then technically speaking it&#8217;s better &#8220;value for money&#8221; to buy the gold. That ways it&#8217;s perhaps only 0.5 - 2 hours work.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/16/buying-gold-is-like-sex-in-the-victorian-era/comment-page-1/#comment-12145</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, thanks for the link! Very interesting stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, thanks for the link! Very interesting stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2009/11/16/buying-gold-is-like-sex-in-the-victorian-era/comment-page-1/#comment-12143</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks :)</description>
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