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	<title>Comments on: Monks, Souls, Hybrids And Life Support For The Holy Trinity</title>
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		<title>By: Have a Little Class with Design &#124; Endgame Farming</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2011/10/30/monks-souls-hybrids-and-life-support-for-the-holy-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-49753</link>
		<dc:creator>Have a Little Class with Design &#124; Endgame Farming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read on trinity assertion. What this doesn&#8217;t fix, however, is the inherent need for solo viability. If I have nothing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] read on trinity assertion. What this doesn&#8217;t fix, however, is the inherent need for solo viability. If I have nothing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s &#8216;Holy&#8217; Because It Is the Truth&#8230; &#124; Endgame Farming</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s &#8216;Holy&#8217; Because It Is the Truth&#8230; &#124; Endgame Farming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s the lowest common denominator. I&#8217;ve skirted briefly with the topic before, but recent conversations have shaped a more refined point of view. I share that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it&#8217;s the lowest common denominator. I&#8217;ve skirted briefly with the topic before, but recent conversations have shaped a more refined point of view. I share that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Imakulata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imakulata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a less discussed disadvantage of WoW&#039;s model although I don&#039;t find it a part of the holy trinity or whatever X-nity there is in your favorite game. It makes DPS less stressful for most of the people because the responsibilities are shared. Another flaw of WoW model (which is not inherent in trinity but even more games have this flaw) is that DPSers have an advantage when soloing as the soloable mobs deal little damage so the offense-heavy role of DPS is just better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a less discussed disadvantage of WoW&#8217;s model although I don&#8217;t find it a part of the holy trinity or whatever X-nity there is in your favorite game. It makes DPS less stressful for most of the people because the responsibilities are shared. Another flaw of WoW model (which is not inherent in trinity but even more games have this flaw) is that DPSers have an advantage when soloing as the soloable mobs deal little damage so the offense-heavy role of DPS is just better.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahtchu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahtchu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I should have checked here before posting over there~&gt;)
Without healers... yes. But healing is still occuring. The role still exists. And in a group situation, specialization will always occur. Making it a common denominator is great and all, but I personally believe the time and energy would be better spent not trying to abolish a cornerstone of combat but rather seek to make it &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; unique in its implementation. Flavor, technique, etc.

Making a given role a common denominator might be a solution depending on its implementation, but isn&#039;t that the very thinking that got us to the present situation in WoW? Everyone can regen your mana, not just a shadowmage! Don&#039;t have a druid for MoW? No problem! Every class can do that!
I maintain that solving the blandness is in making as many &lt;i&gt;unique&lt;/i&gt; denominators as possible- perhaps shared by one or two classes at max. All speculation I suppose :)
(Great post series btw!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I should have checked here before posting over there~&gt;)<br />
Without healers&#8230; yes. But healing is still occuring. The role still exists. And in a group situation, specialization will always occur. Making it a common denominator is great and all, but I personally believe the time and energy would be better spent not trying to abolish a cornerstone of combat but rather seek to make it <i>more</i> unique in its implementation. Flavor, technique, etc.</p>
<p>Making a given role a common denominator might be a solution depending on its implementation, but isn&#8217;t that the very thinking that got us to the present situation in WoW? Everyone can regen your mana, not just a shadowmage! Don&#8217;t have a druid for MoW? No problem! Every class can do that!<br />
I maintain that solving the blandness is in making as many <i>unique</i> denominators as possible- perhaps shared by one or two classes at max. All speculation I suppose <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
(Great post series btw!)</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2011/10/30/monks-souls-hybrids-and-life-support-for-the-holy-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-47366</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My issue isn&#039;t that if you can&#039;t be the main tank, you should be able to change to be to a DPS to still be on the raid but that you shouldn&#039;t have to :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My issue isn&#8217;t that if you can&#8217;t be the main tank, you should be able to change to be to a DPS to still be on the raid but that you shouldn&#8217;t have to <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2011/10/30/monks-souls-hybrids-and-life-support-for-the-holy-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-47365</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely and this is a massive flaw. It means all roles *are not* equal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely and this is a massive flaw. It means all roles *are not* equal.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2011/10/30/monks-souls-hybrids-and-life-support-for-the-holy-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-47364</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said, Doone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said, Doone.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/2011/10/30/monks-souls-hybrids-and-life-support-for-the-holy-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-47363</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to try and answer your first question in my next blog post ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to try and answer your first question in my next blog post <img src='http://blog.weflyspitfires.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really curious to see how GW2 works out and just how popular it is. Although there&#039;s a lot of hype about it, I&#039;m kinda sceptical about whether or not it&#039;s going to appeal to everyone as much as they think it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really curious to see how GW2 works out and just how popular it is. Although there&#8217;s a lot of hype about it, I&#8217;m kinda sceptical about whether or not it&#8217;s going to appeal to everyone as much as they think it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you do that then you run the risk of every class feeling the same.&quot;

You could argue that this is what&#039;s happening to all MMO classes now anyway, especially with companies like Blizzard saying things like &quot;bring the person, not the class&quot;. Essentially all tanks, healers and DPS classes can do the same job so really, what&#039;s the difference between a Paladin and a Warrior other than &#039;flavour&#039;? They still perform the exact same function to the same degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you do that then you run the risk of every class feeling the same.&#8221;</p>
<p>You could argue that this is what&#8217;s happening to all MMO classes now anyway, especially with companies like Blizzard saying things like &#8220;bring the person, not the class&#8221;. Essentially all tanks, healers and DPS classes can do the same job so really, what&#8217;s the difference between a Paladin and a Warrior other than &#8216;flavour&#8217;? They still perform the exact same function to the same degree.</p>
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